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Saturday, March 25

Ms. Marvel, Rated T+ for...

Ms. Marvel is Rated T+. Her T's are plus size no doubt (Frank Cho cover, course). Not sure why I even bought Ms. Marvel #1, although my pile I just picked up includes Girls, SpiderWoman, She-Hulk, Spidey loves Mary Jane, Hawkgirl, Catwoman, and Red Sonja-- spot the theme here?

Ms. Marvel seems to be mostly a stroke material character-- I know people feel she has been underutilized, without her own comic for 20 years. I can get behind the "if I try harder I can be the best/ whatever's going on, it's up to you" motivation...can't help but feel her sentence "I feel like an also ran" sums my feelings for this character. Just by doing things like this, "I accidentally blasted him the crotch. Seven times in the crotch!" , and being an ex-Avenger just doesn't allow me to get past the thigh high boots and bodysuit. Flying and fighting would make that thing ride up on a girl.


At 3:50 PM, Blogger Mark said...

I wouldn't touch this with a barge pole, even though AVENGERS ANNUAL #10 was one of my favourite comics as a kid. That said, I'd buy it in a flash if Dan Slott took over as writer. Funny that.

At 4:40 PM, Blogger RAB said...

I wonder if there's a more misbegotten character in the Marvel Universe?

A name coined solely to protect a copyright combined with a several-years-too-late attempt to hop on a perceived trend by people who had no understanding of or sympathy for the ideas behind that trend. Well, okay, that's been standard operating procedure for Marvel and DC for a long time. (Remember, the same writer created Vibe.)

Then throw into the mix a fairly uninteresting supporting character from of one of Marvel's second- or third-tier titles, which only underscores a lack of feeling for the supposed feminist message: "Yeah, sure we have female characters we could use here! We Danvers! And let's make her a spinoff of an existing male character, in case our disrespect for feminism wasn't already clear enough! And we'll give her fuzzy, ill-defined powers and then throw in gratuitous moments of inexplicable weakness, and a memory loss problem too...because women are, um, struggling to find themselves, yeah, that's it!"

All these years later I'm still trying to figure out why they took a character who was a chief of security for the space program -- surely a career that would offer springboards for many interesting plots -- and made her a women's magazine editor. Unless it was because the only feminist Gerry Conway could think of on a moment's notice was Gloria Steinem? It surely wasn't the result of more than a moment's thought; Conway always saddened me as a writer who had some talent but seemed eager to be a hack instead.

Everything done with the character since then -- including rape, brainwashing, and forced childbirth -- has been a series of band-aids or desperate attempts to add some appeal to a character completely lacking interest. And it's never going to work: at this point, she's entirely composed of band-aids.

At 6:04 PM, Anonymous Randy said...

But see, that's precisely what they're saying in this new series. They acknowledge all that stuff that's happened before to her. That's the whole premise of the new series.

I certainly agree with your assessments of Gerry Conway. He's done some good stuff that when I re-read a book I'm surprised to discover eh was the writer. Yet, when I think of him I automatically think of the stuff that I thought was utter crap. Hard to believe he works for Law and Order now.

At 6:39 PM, Blogger redlib said...

Love your comments boys!
The woman surely would have an identity crisis from all the name changes ( Ms.Marvel, Binary, Warbird)/life trauma as rab mentioned/ and the inexplicable growth of her breasts from a B/C to the DD.

Mark, did you mean you wouldn't touch buying Ms. Marvel or that you won't discuss the T+ rating?

Randy, it is true they attempt a fresh restart discussing her mixed bag background. I go back to the "also ran" comment though. Not sure I can invest in her.

At 11:00 PM, Blogger Ragnell said...

I've been trying out more female-lead books lately, but couldn't bring myself to pick this up. I've never had enough interest in Carol Danvers to even hate her.

At 11:13 AM, Blogger Mark said...

I wouldn't touch the BOOK with a bargepole - making gags about big boobs is, however, right up my alley.

Rab is spot on about her history, though. If She-Hulk was the crappy editorial-led spin-off which has transcended her origins thanks to some thoughtful handling, then Ms Marvel has, in contrast, received the full list of "women in refrigerators" degradations (you forgot to mention "alcoholism"!)that male comic writers dump on female characters in lieu of real characterisation. Which, of course, still goes on (Bendis has had his lapses into this territory of late: the Purple Man arc in ALIAS, his use of The Scarlett Witch, the current Spider-Woman ORIGINS mini - I guess he liked AVENGERS ANNUAL #10 a little bit too much).

But, other than that, great costume! Very practical.

At 1:41 PM, Blogger Rich said...

Then again, Ms. Marvel could be the most exciting new title in the Marvel line-up. I'll never know, since I'm just not a big fan of Frank Cho or his Steppford Wives in Spandex. Just look at any issue of Liberty Meadows, and you'll recognize all the women ... as the same woman, really, just different shade to the hair.

At 2:15 PM, Blogger Mark said...

Yup - if I wasn't getting SHE-HULK and even THE BULLETEER by mail-order, I'd probably chicken out of buying them in a comic shop because of their overtly cheesecake covers. That said, here's hoping Marvel release that nudie version of SHANNA they keep threatening to... because censorship is just WRONG, dammit!

At 5:16 PM, Blogger Rich said...

Funny you mention She-Hulk ... before the reboot, the current series, folks were speculating on who would be a good She-Hulk illustrator. A couple of guys agreed that Frank Cho on SHE-HULK would be the greatest thing since green boobs ... but the rest of us howled in anguish over the idea. She-Hulk deserves better.

At 2:21 AM, Blogger Mark said...

It's horses for courses, and Juan Bobillo's the man for the job: his work just tends to bring out the intelligence of Slott's scripts better. I hear he's left again, and Paul Smith is taking over. I've a lot of time for Smith - his runs on the X-MEN and DR STRANGE were pretty much the last times I cared for either series. I loved his work with Jim Robinson on THE GOLDEN AGE and LEAVE IT TO CHANCE, too. Here's hoping he gells as well with Slott.

At 2:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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